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May we all be children and follow the book, just as Jesus did and encouraged.
some of blondie's comments on her wt review makes me post this question.
the wt always holds up david as a great.
they love him.
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May we all be children and follow the book, just as Jesus did and encouraged.
i wonder.
a very typcal witness may see the obvious negatives that jws know they have.
they might acknowledge that there's often a lack of love, that the elders can be demanding, that "new light" can change long cherished beliefs in an instant.......but still they cling on and resist any sort of intellectual discussion as to why the witnesses are off soooooo many times.....what gives??
To me, reaching me (whoever I might be) could mean that (1) I have read your words, (2) I have understood your words, (3) I have reacted to your words, (4) I have been motivated by your words, and/or (5) I have change my heart/mind in some way as a results of your words. Probably all of that is true, if the Creator would have His say about me right now.
To me, JW could mean (1) someone that identifies with the term JW, for whatever reason, whether with a friend, an acquaintance, or even on a census or in a conversation with a complete stranger; (2) someone that others believe to be a JW, based on words/appearances; (3) someone that the Christian Congregration of Jehovah's Witnesses identifies as being a JW, based on the elders' rulings formed from their interactions with/about the particular individual; and/or (4) someone that Jehovah recognizes as one of his own Witnesses.
To me, devout could mean (1) someone that identifies with the term devout, for whatever reason and in whatever circumstance; (2) someone that others believe to be devout, based on words/appearances; (3) someone that the Christian Congregration of Jehovah's Witnesses identifies as being devout (good/exemplary standing), based on the elders' rulings formed from their interactions with/about the particular individual; and/or (4) someone that Jehovah recognizes as devout.
Perhaps this analysis may further assist in answering this question. From that arises the question as to what the motive might be in asking such a question: is it past experience?, etc. Also, given that the person actually is a Devout JW acccording to whatever criteria is used for reach/devout/JW, what common ground is there between the given person(s) and that Devout JW?
lessons from history .
i have a few reasons for providing the information that follows: .
* a very recent posting mentioned eschatologists of the 19th century (1800s) who provided ctr with his ideas on the interpretation of last-day prophecies.
Bible research is ongoing, is it not!
what is the (or your) definition of unbled meat as described in 1 samuel 14:32-35 where saul fed his army unbled meat.
i would assume that his army did not travel with a herd of sheep and the meat they ate would be from the wild.. i am a hunter and when i harvest a deer, i do not hang it and cut the throat.
i have already dressed (disemboweled) the deer and that includes removing the heart from the inside which allows a total bloodletting.. there are jdubs who hunt and it is quite obvious to game officials who they are because they will check in deer with the throat cut.
Whatever technology was available to Noah was fine with God, when He first sanctioned animal meat for human consumption. I see no reason to suggest that things have changed in Jehovah's view from Noah's time till now. No wonder the FDS has clarified the issue of blood products over the last number of years. The point about blood, whether animal or human, as far as I know, has always been to lay the groundwork for the value of Christ's sacrifice for all sinful humans. The memorial of Christ's death is still in place, after all, these 1974 years later. The ransom is still required for humans to be given everlasting life, and it is still important to recognize Jehovah's Sovereignty (right to rule). Perhaps the following Scriptures (that come to my mind now) may be useful for our meditation.
Isaiah 55: 8, 9 states: 8 “For the thoughts of YOU people are not my thoughts, nor are my ways YOUR ways,” is the utterance of Jehovah. 9 “For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so my ways are higher than YOUR ways, and my thoughts than YOUR thoughts.
Romans 15:4 states: 4 For all the things that were written aforetime were written for our instruction, that through our endurance and through the comfort from the Scriptures we might have hope.
1 Corinthians 10:11, 12 states: 11 Now these things went on befalling them as examples, and they were written for a warning to us upon whom the ends of the systems of things have arrived. 12 Consequently let him that thinks he is standing beware that he does not fall.
1 Corinthians 10: 21, 22 states: 21 Y OU cannot be drinking the cup of Jehovah and the cup of demons; YOU cannot be partaking of “the table of Jehovah” and the table of demons. 22 Or “are we inciting Jehovah to jealousy”? We are not stronger than he is, are we?
1 Corinthians 10:31-33 states: 31 Therefore, whether YOU are eating or drinking or doing anything else, do all things for God’s glory. 32 Keep from becoming causes for stumbling to Jews as well as Greeks and to the congregation of God, 33 even as I am pleasing all people in all things, not seeking my own advantage but that of the many, in order that they might get saved.
what is the (or your) definition of unbled meat as described in 1 samuel 14:32-35 where saul fed his army unbled meat.
i would assume that his army did not travel with a herd of sheep and the meat they ate would be from the wild.. i am a hunter and when i harvest a deer, i do not hang it and cut the throat.
i have already dressed (disemboweled) the deer and that includes removing the heart from the inside which allows a total bloodletting.. there are jdubs who hunt and it is quite obvious to game officials who they are because they will check in deer with the throat cut.
Both verses also mention to abstain from what is strangled.
When I go to the supermarket, I just choose a "round" cut of beef with the least visible blood, and wash it just before I put it in the roasting pan in the oven and cook it. Verse 29 gives God's blessings. It works for me.
what is the (or your) definition of unbled meat as described in 1 samuel 14:32-35 where saul fed his army unbled meat.
i would assume that his army did not travel with a herd of sheep and the meat they ate would be from the wild.. i am a hunter and when i harvest a deer, i do not hang it and cut the throat.
i have already dressed (disemboweled) the deer and that includes removing the heart from the inside which allows a total bloodletting.. there are jdubs who hunt and it is quite obvious to game officials who they are because they will check in deer with the throat cut.
Fred, Not to be antagonistic however, I beg to differ with your belief there. Once again you are quoting Old Testament. Jesus fulfilled the old testament laws, we need to understand Christianity is not based on legalistic doctrine, its based on love and salvation by grace. The Holy scriptures are guides, the old testament is a testament of Christ and what he accomplished. The day he went to be crusified was the day that the old testament was fulfilled. Christian's shouldn't keep harping on what the old testament writers wrote. We now live under the new covenant and have a personal relationship with God.
Acts 15: 20, 29 comes after Jesus' death and resurrection, and definitely applies to both Jews and Gentiles. A read of Acts 15 especially verse 19 shows this plainly. As 2 Tim 3:16 states: All Scripture is inspired of God and beneficial. All is a pretty inclusive word.
lessons from history .
i have a few reasons for providing the information that follows: .
* a very recent posting mentioned eschatologists of the 19th century (1800s) who provided ctr with his ideas on the interpretation of last-day prophecies.
There are prophecies in the midst of fulfillment, and also some very soon to be fulfilled. Check the current Watchtower publications for details.
i wonder.
a very typcal witness may see the obvious negatives that jws know they have.
they might acknowledge that there's often a lack of love, that the elders can be demanding, that "new light" can change long cherished beliefs in an instant.......but still they cling on and resist any sort of intellectual discussion as to why the witnesses are off soooooo many times.....what gives??
I'll let Jehovah and Jesus Christ do the judging on this one, since it is Jehovah who is the author of his Holy Scriptures, and it was Jesus Christ who uttered and enacted the prophecy about the FDS.
what is the (or your) definition of unbled meat as described in 1 samuel 14:32-35 where saul fed his army unbled meat.
i would assume that his army did not travel with a herd of sheep and the meat they ate would be from the wild.. i am a hunter and when i harvest a deer, i do not hang it and cut the throat.
i have already dressed (disemboweled) the deer and that includes removing the heart from the inside which allows a total bloodletting.. there are jdubs who hunt and it is quite obvious to game officials who they are because they will check in deer with the throat cut.
Jehovah knew the issues better than we when he authored his Holy Scriptures. We need to reason according to His ways, not our own. (Isaiah 55:8, 9.)
some of blondie's comments on her wt review makes me post this question.
the wt always holds up david as a great.
they love him.
King David at least was humble enough to admit when he did wrong, and always accepted the prophets' counsel and direction. So K.D. was a humble man. And he always loved going to the meetings, as we should. He was always good at giving praise to Jehovah, extolling his virtues and ways. A true model of repentance, even me, DF'd as I am treated. — Fred.